Sake & Hot tubs
Welcome to Sake & Hot Tubs with Fred and Lisa. Where big ideas start small, just like conversations shared over a glass of sake and a soak in the hot tub.
This isn’t just another real estate podcast. We’ve created our own incubator of inspiration. A space where guests can step away from the noise, relax, and explore their next idea, whether that’s in business, community, or personal growth.
So, pull up a chair, pour a glass, and let’s dive in. Because in this hot tub, ideas don’t just float, they take shape.
Recent Episodes
March 4, 2026
S1E14 | Man in the Arena
Strong mindset. Strong pours. Strong episode. Jake “The Saiyan” Bower joins Lisa and Fred to talk mindset, hustle, and balancing multiple businesses while staying fight-ready. 🥊💦 This episode is all about discipline, growth, ...
Feb. 18, 2026
S1E13 | Jason, Leadership, and Life Pivots
Lisa and Fred are joined by Jason Ponsonby , Senior Vice President of Company Production at American Pacific Mortgage , for a conversation all about leadership, growth, and knowing when it’s time to pivot. They dive into what...
Feb. 11, 2026
S1E12 | Friendship, Florida, and Full Circle
This week on Sake & Hot Tubs , Lisa heads to the sunshine state and sits down with longtime college friend Laura Foster for a heartfelt conversation straight from her beautiful home in Destin, Florida . 🌴 They talk about frie...
Feb. 4, 2026
S1E11 | Friendship, Cigars, and No Matter What
This episode is a little different — and a lot meaningful. Fred is joined by his best friend Dore , actually sitting in a hot tub with cigars in hand, for a real, unfiltered conversation about friendship, loyalty, and being t...
Jan. 21, 2026
S1E10 | Garren, Groceries, and Giving Back
This week in the tub, we’re joined by Garren Zanker , owner of the Jewell Market , for a conversation that’s all about community, heart, and showing up where it matters. Garren shares how he became deeply involved in the Jewe...
Jan. 7, 2026
S1E9 | Eighty Percent Love, Twenty Percent Lessons
Lisa and Fred dive into the idea that you don’t have to love 100% of a home to buy it. 👀 They talk through the reality that most buyers fall in love with about 80% of a house — and how a renovation loan can help you transform...